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Used Car Dealer Podcast Interview on Fraud Within the Automotive Industry

by James Maguire 1 min read August 28, 2023

Selly Automotive

In a recent episode of the Used Car Dealer Podcast, host Zach Klempf, sat down with Jim Maguire, Experian’s senior director of product marketing for automotive, to discuss the prevalence of fraud in the automotive industry.

During their conversation, Jim highlighted the findings in Experian’s 2023 Identity and Fraud Report, giving listeners a deeper understanding into the evolving dynamics of fraud, with data and insights on the current landscape and what actionable strategies dealers can take to prevent it.

The episode is now available across all major podcast platforms, click the link below to watch:
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